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1 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:34 am

MistaTea


Yeh sorry for leaving but I'd probably cause an incident as I was really not feeling good and my dad yelling at me for always being on LFS (apperently) didn't help. I got off the track quite a couple of times and then really needed to rest so I left.

Silver can you please post that dangerous layout so that we can use it to practice.

2 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:41 am

wOoOzZy


I'd like to appologize for missing the race without warning. I set the alarm on my phone but I must've set it wrong because it didn't go off. I was really looking forward to the race (2 weeks is too long to wait:D ). I'll make up for it in the next race.

3 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:02 pm

SilverArrows77


Admin

I can't find the 4 second rule you are on about..



9b: The 4second rule: To ensure the quality and capiblities of drivers racing in oneGP events, drivers will be required to qualify within 4 seconds of the pole position time of any race. If a driver falls outside this 4 second allowance he will not be eligable to enter the race. This will ensure drivers come to events with sufficent practice and preparation. Only if one third (1/3) of the total field fails to meet this allowance will it be reconsidered at any round.

If u watched last round you will know that Ihab joined server without qualifying and was denied entry into race

2b: Midrace joins will not be enabled ????


It was hardly midrace - he rejoined before the cars even made it to turn 1, and when he has qualified to enter therace. Im not going to deny a car entering the field when we are needing more drivers participating. The midrace join rule is more there to prevent cars crashing and rejoining.

All of which still has nothing to do with the fact that you simply crashed.

3d: It is each drivers responsibilty to be aware and and familiar with event rules and guidelines. No driver is to seek to exploit any of these rules to their advantage or to the disadvantage of others competitors.

Im not about to write a 10 page list of rules because people want to use them to suit their desires...

SilverArrows77

4 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:16 pm

Mazar


Admin
Im not going to
deny a car entering the field when we are needing more drivers
participating.


Just a couple of thoughts on the more drivers participating point.

Although more drivers maybe *teams* are needed the quality of the drivers competing in oneGP in its inaugural season is mighty impressive and very nicely balanced in my opinion. It is brilliant to see new BF1 drivers like Hibex and WooOz competing with the established top drivers.

The series has for sure got quality in depth throughout the field. The times being put down over the races are very fast for all and the efforts being put in by the teams in practising, testing and being ready is seriously impressive.

Most where testing for round5 within hours of round4 finishing.

For this reason, please consider carefully opening the series to individual drivers as there is a very hard battle shaping here for team and drivers championship with every point going to count at the end of the series. Competing against individual drivers at this stage of the championship when team drivers have everything to lose isnt so cool.

This battle that is shaping will attract others soon im sure, other teams will want to compete and this will fill the slots available in time. Hang in there a little while as i think you have it perfect Silver, you have built it and they will come.


ilver can you please post that dangerous layout so that we can use it to practice.


Yes. If you could post it please so we can practise with it on our teams servers, would be great. Had a quick look at it, i like it and cant see it being dangerous.

Best, Maz

5 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:56 pm

SilverArrows77


Admin
Sorry, i missed MistaTea's comment asking for layout. you can get the oneGP FE3 layout here >>DOWNLOAD<<

There certainly is nothing dangerous about the layout, and is done for very specific reasons. That first chicane is terrible for cars attempting to straightline it at full speed (spend some time on CTRA etc and its always shown to be a distaster), and this often doesnt affect the driver doing it, but rather affects the driver following as tyres are often bumped and left to roll into the path of the car behind. By taking away the abilty to straight line it, the chance of knocking tyres about is greatly reduced - i have done many laps on the layout and is no problems taking that turn at all

Quite simply (for those having a whinge already), this will be the layout for the race, and drivers must race to the conditions of the track. It will be required to slow for this chicane, and i have purposely set it so that it cant be straight lined.

For this reason, please consider carefully opening the series to
individual drivers as there is a very hard battle shaping here for team
and drivers championship


Yes i do agree with this Mazar, and finding the solution in the short term is somethign ive spent time thinking about - i certainly agree that it wouldnt be good to see teams championship disadvantaged by individual drivers and would actually go agaisnt my original concept for oneGP. And like you say , the driving has been very impressive throughout series so far and wouldnt be a good thing to have the standards drop.

So i guess your right - the series has been (is still being ) built, and others will come as it grows. Ive been somewhat disappointed by a few teams that have so far failed to make an effort to compete dispite having signed up to series. These teams that simply enter a round, and find they arent on the pace of the "top" teams, and then fail to race again arent acceptable to have in the series, and any team that misses 2 consectitve rounds ( by not having any drivers participate) will in future face being removed altogether from series - at the end of the day with teams (or peoples views on rules) id rather see 4 cars in a race (if thats what it takes) and mantain the goal and quailty of oneGP, than have a full field of drivers that cant be bothered to read the rules or make an effort to particpate regularly.

So while on this topic, i would like to take the chance to say thanks to all the teams that are doing the right thing and entering their drivers regularly etc - its this that will see the series grow and is something you are all a valuable part off.

SilverArrows77

6 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:55 am

wOoOzZy


SilverArrows77 wrote:and any team that misses 2 consectitve rounds ( by not having any drivers participate) will in future face being removed altogether from series

I mostly agree there, unless the team has given noticed as to why they aren't able to make it. But missing 2 races in a row without anybody hearing from the drivers/manager is grounds to be, at least, docked team championship points or even be removed for the season.

As for getting more teams... I'm always looking around for new drivers. If we have openings for teams to join season 1 then I think I can find some a bit easier than saying "you can apply for next season".

7 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:37 am

tenmantaylor


Hi guys first post after first race Smile


Really enjoyed it, gotta thank Maz and Team FRO for the seat offer and
Junkan for a great race. Hopefully I can form a team of my own and
compete for the rest of the season.


Junkan put in a great qual time for pole and I managed to set a PB to secure a front row slot by 1/100th of a second on my last flyer.

As for the race I took an overly cautious T1 and kept my position and out of trouble. The first stint was quite eventful as it swung back and
forth between myself and Junkan. I managed to get into the lead on lap
2 or 3 after he made a small mistake at T1. I then built a fair gap of
6s or so after I believe J made some small errors on hot R3s.

Then around lap 10 I got collected by Sitter after he had wrecked and
ended up stranded on the fast chic exit in the middle of the track. He
decided to try and leave the track to the left. Unfortunately this
was into the only path I was capable of taking at this point and after
a trip to the perimiter wall I was very
lucky to be able to continue after sustaining some damage.

After an accident of that proportion no
real life car would have been able to attempt to drive off of the track
(across the racing line) which caused my accident. It would have been
better for Sitter to leave to the right or even stay still till a
safety car deployment. How much worse did Sitters accident have to be to bring out the SC?

After this my previous lead had gone and was quickly in the sights of
Junkan again who appeared to be lapping much better at this stage and I
quickly succumbed to his higher straight line speed but not without a
fight Smile I managed to get the lead back on a couple of occasions but
after a good battle he got infront again and started gapping me before our
only stops.

After the pitstops I never regained my balance or speed, notably in the
last crucial left hander after fast chic where I could no longer take
it flat losing lots of time up the hill. I initially thought this was
the damage from the sitter crash but have since started thinking I
never managed to get the R4s back up to full temps after the stop,
particularly the outsides of the rear tyres which caused many slides
there.

I then just concentrated on bringing the car home but not before a few more mishaps at that bugger of a corner Smile

Thanks again guys cyclops

8 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:53 pm

wOoOzZy


Hey taylor. Glad you made it to oneGP. Unfortunate that WE1R was a tough track for, seemingly, everyone. Hopefuly FE3 will be a bit better and will have a larger grid. Though I can't really find many safe places to overtake. Should be fun though. Very Happy

9 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:24 pm

Mazar


Admin
Really enjoyed it, gotta thank Maz and Team FRO for the seat offer and
Junkan for a great race.


Really was our pleasure bro, you really earnt that with stunning drives in the morning on the FRO servers and the race performance combined with your general cool way of being earnt you a full time seat on the FRO oneGP team. Well done friend.

Great race report!


Though I can't really find many safe places to overtake. Should be fun though.


Not just you, lol, oh my....this one is going to be one hell of a tough race. There is almost no where safe to pass on the track and you always have to drive with 100% commitment on this circuit leaving no room or margin for errors. Any errors you are straight off the track and bounced back into the way of others. Hard round..good fun.

and finding the solution in the short term is somethign ive spent time
thinking about - i certainly agree that it wouldnt be good to see teams
championship disadvantaged by individual drivers and would actually go
agaisnt my original concept for oneGP. And like you say , the driving
has been very impressive throughout series so far and wouldnt be a good
thing to have the standards drop.

the
series has been (is still being ) built, and others will come as it
grows. Ive been somewhat disappointed by a few teams that have so far
failed to make an effort to compete dispite having signed up to series.
These teams that simply enter a round, and find they arent on the pace
of the "top" teams,


Yeh this is not cool and should be addressed formally in the rule set. Failure to bring drivers to the events for x number should definately mean loss of a teams slot i feel. In the future im absolutely positive the level of competition will attract the best teams around to compete along with the very best drivers.

Already this series is for sure the hardest most competitive level ive come accros in LFS so far. This is enough to attract the very best. We where all laughing on server yesterday, less than days after last round all are testing hard for the next. There is no more set sharing, just good clean competion between the teams and incredibly fast drivers.

Its just got going and i feel the forthcoming few months will attract lots more to the series and a rule to reflect level of commitment will be needed in the future as i think there will be competition for slots. This ones a winner! whoever claims the oneGP titles will really have earnt a crown.

We at FRO are real happy Silver, the organisation is spot on and thanks for making it possible as its a real buzz for us to have to give all to developing sets for the races, learning these tracks and trying to compete with the top teams.

Awesome fun, many thanks.

Best, Maz

10 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:34 pm

dekojester


Admin
SilverArrows77 wrote:>>A little video that says it all<<


Ihab Abbas joined after the race start and everyone crashed in t1 so I stopped fully expecting a restart as I thought it was the lag lap


Ihab had nothing to do with crash at all - he qualified within the 4sec cutoff rule and for whatever reason left the server, on reconnecting there was no prob with him joining race, it was lap one and he had qualified - but is no way a race would ever be restarted for someone reconnecting.

To say you stopped expecting a lag lap is a absolute load of shit like the video shows. Your team mate lost the rear of his car , you hit him and spun (note that even as you hit him you havent applied brakes) - its only after hitting your team mate causing your own spin in front of the field of cars, that u start calling lag lap and getting frustrated. Ihab had nothing to do with the situation and was totally an incident between both sonicrealms drivers.

Also oneGP has never, and will not ever, use a lag lap!

I am pulling out of this league and someone else will take my place.


Your more than welcome to f*ck off elsewhere and race, as i certainly wont be wasting my time on people coming here whinging like a little girl because they have had an accident (that was totally avoidable and between team mates anyway) and then tried to blame it on other idiotic excuses.

Not only have your own actions reflected badly upon Sonicrealms racing, but they have also detracted from the victory that your team mate had in the race. Something Sonicrealms will surely not see as a favorable attitude from one of their members.


So I know this issue has come and gone, but I feel the need to give my thoughts on this.

If a driver disconnects, regardles of the reason, the rule should be followed exactly. If they disconnect and they miss their call to get in grid, they lose their start. If they join before the start, I will let them join from the back of the grid.

However. "Midrace joins will not be enabled" means that the server must be set to /midrace=no from green lights to checkers. That's why I have the SC start on the grid, so I don't ahve to disable it. If you miss the green light, you missed the start, sorry for your luck, try again next time.

But this is just my view.

And does anyone know why Silver was hellbent on never doing a laglap ?

d

11 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:27 pm

wOoOzZy


Because he, as well as a number of us, feel that lag laps are completely unnecessary. I haven't heard a good argument as to why we should have one.

12 Re: Confirmations for Round 4 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:47 pm

Gil07


Team Manager
The name gives a clue, to be honest. It's to make sure the connections etc are all working as they should after a race end. In oneGP's case it isnt needed as we go directly from quali to race, without ending the race, so everyone's pc/connection should still be fine.

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